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One of the biggest horror success stories in the current decade has been the Insidious franchise, jointly created by frequent collaborators James Wan and Leigh Whannell. The first two films revolved around the terror that befell the Lambert family, whose son was taken by a demon residing beyond a realm known as The Further, a place where the dead are doomed to relive their horrible demises over and over again.

Introduced back in the first Insidious was psychic character Elise Rainer (Lin Shaye), and her two associates Specs (Whannell) and Tucker (Angus Sampson). While Elise began life as a supporting player, by last year’s prequel Insidious: Chapter 3, her story had become one of the main focuses of the series, with that film detailing her first encounter with her future nerdy sidekicks. Not much has been revealed to date about the plot of the upcoming Insidious: Chapter 4, but thankfully, Shaye herself recently spoke to Daily Dead, and took the opportunity to discuss what’s to come in this latest installment.

Lin Shaye

“In general, it goes back to Elise’s beginnings. And you also meet Elise at a very different point in her life. It takes place right after the end of Chapter 3, when she walks off with Specs and Tucker and they’re starting their company, Spectral Sightings, and they are now living at her home. They’re like her two sons, her two bad sons [laughs].

So it starts out in a very jovial, happy place and then goes downhill from there [laughs]. And ‘downhill’ meaning ‘uphill,’ though. It’s a fantastic story and it took me back into what made Elise who she is. You meet my family, my mother, my father—we go back to my hometown, which is in New Mexico. And so that’s where this takes place and her quest to find the bad guy that’s been haunting her. It’s a really wonderful story. I think the fans will really, really enjoy it. And it’s scary on levels they’re not going to expect.”

So there you have it folks, our first inkling of what Insidious: Chapter 4 has in store. The film arrives in theaters on October 20th, 2017, just in time for Halloween. Here’s hoping Whannell and company can keep up the quality level demonstrated in the previous entries.