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Bruce Campbell Tells iHorror “Ash vs Evil Dead” Finale will be “A Whole Different Type of Fight”

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Only one episode remains for Season 2 of the “unrestricted carnage and mayhem” that is Starz Channel’s “Ash vs Evil Dead,” but iHorror was able to chat with Bruce Campbell late Friday morning, two full days before the big unveiling on Sunday night.

And Campbell did not disappoint.

When it came to the possible resurrection of Pablo, Campbell noted that the remaining squad was still willing to do anything to save their boy and that Ash would have an entirely new approach to battle Baal.

Add time travel to the cabin and the return of Henrietta and there is much to settle over the course of what is sure to be 30 action-packed minutes.

Beyond Pablo’s fate, Campbell touched on being reunited with Ellen Sandweiss and Ted Raimi, his new book, the possibility of an Evil Dead 2 crossover and that “Second Coming” will come down to a man-to-man showdown.

So behold, a conversation with The King as an early Krampus gift from iHorror to our loyal readers. Because you deserve it. For being groovy.

cabiniHorror: From Henrietta to Delta as DeLorean, nods to the original films have been off the charts this season, but none better than Ellen Sandweiss’ return as Ash’s sister Cheryl. What was it like having Evil Dead come full circle in a way?

Bruce Campbell: It’s great! It’s great. I love seeing my old friends. I love seeing the old characters, the old actors. We like it as much as the fans do, bringing these people back. Ellen’s an old, old friend. I lost my virginity to Ellen Sandweiss, a little trivia for you. It’s just awesome. These people have remained our friends over the years, Ted Raimi, as well, it was great getting him back as Henrietta. And now we’re going to have to battle that horrible beast again. 

iH: Between the characters being so well-written and the fantastic performances of Ray Santiago and Dana DeLorenzo, have you felt like a proud papa so to speak seeing that Evil Dead fans, old and new, have taken to Pablo and Kelly the way that they have?

BC: I’m having it now! I am a proud papa. These guys have done great. When you hire an actor, you don’t know. They could be crazy, they could be idiots, they could be unstable — a lot of actors are. But these guys turned out. They had just enough experience to be able to handle it and they’ve embraced it, and then the fans have seen that they’ve embraced it so the fans have embraced them. And look, these are two good actors. Dana and Ray? They’re earning their money every single day, so yeah, I am a proud papa and I hope that this show will do well for them for the rest of their careers. 

iH: Let’s talk Pablo. Episode 209 (“Home Again”) featured time travel to fix it so that Ash never found the Necronomicon and your wingman was never killed, but on top of that, a couple of times you’ve taken to Twitter to say things like “The fat lady ain’t sung yet” and “(Ash) will do anything to save his buddy Pablo.” Of course, you might just be messing with fans to keep them guessing, but give us a glimmer of hope that we haven’t seen the last of Pablito?

BC: Well, I don’t mess with people that way. I wouldn’t do it to be malicious. I would do it to just to make them stay tuned to see what’s going to happen. And believe me, we’re acutely aware of pissing audiences off. Dramatically, it’s important that you do stuff like that because it’s a way to test how audiences like your characters, to kill them. We knew that Ray was very popular and the fans really liked him, so we’re messing with his character, but again I would just say, don’t forget Ash and the team will do anything to get him back. Regardless of the risks or stupidity or whatever, Ash is an idiot, but he’s a loyal idiot. 

iH: I’d read that some of the old school Star Wars people like Carrie Fisher had told The Force Awakens stars Daisy Ridley and John Boyega that they should prepare to have a stalker or two, which got me to thinking of the fervent fans of the Evil Dead. You have godlike status with your followers, so what advice did you offer Santiago and DeLorenzo for the first season, and even now with the show growing in popularity, so far as how to go about the business of day-to-day life being recognized and obsessed over?

BC: We did, yeah. We told them, but you can’t ever fully realize that until it happens to you. Dana has to be careful being a woman and Ray’s going to have the same issues as well. Who knows? He could get a male or female stalker. Look, we’re on the front lines, we’re in the entertainment business, it’s going to happen. I’ve been fortunate, I’ve only had one or two kind of assholes in my life that I had to work around, but not too bad. So yeah, we told them, but they’re going to have to find out for themselves. 

ash-dooriH: This is a staple of these interviews, and just my favorite question to ask. Whether it’s from this season or during promotion for Season 1 — what is the strangest request you’ve ever received from an “Ash vs Evil Dead” fan?

BC: I sign a lot of boobies. I don’t know, I get gifts sometimes and a woman gave me some poetry that she wrote that was the most offensive material I think I’ve ever laid eyes on. After about the first paragraph I threw it out ’cause I’m like “Really?” Because you are associated with that world, you must love the underworld, you must love darkness, you must love evil. I don’t think they realize that I don’t watch horror movies, I’m not a horror guy. Horror is not my favorite genre, and I think they’d be surprised at a lot of that. I can’t quote horror movies. My favorite movie is not a horror movie, but by association sometimes fans think that you’re just like them, and that’s fine.

iH: What can you tell us about the new book, Hail to the Chin: Further Confession of a B Movie Actor? Did the idea come about with the emergence and success of “Ash vs Evil Dead” or had it been bouncing around for a while?

BC: It was kicking around. I was thinking of doing it because it’s actually been 15 years since the first book because that was 2001. There have been a lot of crazy things happening, a lot of travel, a lot of ridiculous stories working in Colombia and Bulgaria and there’s just no shortage of things to tell on the low-budget side of film-making. And what’s nice about this new book is that I end it on the “Ash vs Evil Dead” chapter.

It’s the whole concept of crawling back into the womb, which I’ve basically been trying to crawl back into the womb ever since we made the first Evil Dead. Because ironically, that is the only project that I ever worked on where we legally had 100 percent creative control according to the paperwork with our investors. They had no creative input into that project whatsoever. So people always say “Where’s the director’s cut of Evil Dead?” There was no director’s cut. There’s only one cut and that’s the director’s cut. Ever since then, we made our second movie Crimewave, and the studio came in, took the project over, re-cut the film, they did it with Army of Darkness, it happens a lot. Studios, if they put up the money, they’re the ones who have all the creative control and then directors can fight for it back-and-forth, but essentially that’s what it represents. Doing “Ash vs Evil Dead” is really crawling back into the womb of where it all began, back into a very comfortable spot.

iH: How ‘bout Evil Dead 2 with Fede Alvarez. Is that going to happen and will there be any crossover with original characters or “Ash vs Evil Dead?”

BC: Anything could happen. This is a resurgence and when things resurge like this anything could go together. The remake made a lot of money and so there’s definitely interest in making another one, but Fede just made a shit-ton of money with Don’t Breathe, so with how the business works, Fede doesn’t need us. Fede works best, I feel, in an unbridled environment because if you see (Don’t Breathe), it’s really special, he did a really great job, he’s a very special talent. So we may hook up with Fede again, we may cross Ash over with the Jane Levy character. Two years ago you ask me this question and I’d go “I don’t know,” but if the TV show is a success and stays on for X amount of years, success begets success and we’d probably be able to make another feature film. 

iH: When we spoke with DeLorenzo in August she said there would be an action in Season 2 that could not be undone and Raimi told us that there would be a great reveal with his character that the fans would enjoy. Now, there’s only one episode to go, but that brings us to you. Baal (Joel Tobeck) is back,  it looks like Ruby (Lucy Lawless) might be leaning toward the dark side once again and we talked about Pablo, so as The King of the franchise, certainly you have something you can share that will keep fans squirming in their seats until Sunday night?

BC: Can Ash defeat Baal? That’s the question. Because what Ash does this time, he’s like “Hey man, don’t dazzle me with your bullshit. Put your hands up and fight like a man, with no powers.” It’s going to boil down to which physical man can win. No powers, because Ash doesn’t have any powers, he never has. Baal has the superpowers, but Ash is like “Bullshit, let’s see what you got,” and that’s what I like. 

It’s not like Batman v Superman where no one’s really going to get hurt ever, this is two guys where every punch they feel the pain. That was very important to me when we were shooting that sequence, that I want this superhero to feel pain. I want this bad guy to feel pain because bad, super evil people don’t feel pain and that was important to me, that he feels pain just as much as Ash does. So I think that people will really dig that fight because it’s a whole different type of a fight. It’s not lightning bolts shooting out of the guy’s fingers sending Ash through a wall, it’s just two guys fighting and I really dig that. 

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Thrills and Chills: Ranking ‘Radio Silence’ Films from Bloody Brilliant to Just Bloody

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Matt Bettinelli-Olpin, Tyler Gillett, and Chad Villella are all filmmakers under the collective label called Radio Silence. Bettinelli-Olpin and Gillett are the primary directors under that moniker while Villella produces.

They have gained popularity over the past 13 years and their films have become known as having a certain Radio Silence “signature.” They are bloody, usually contain monsters, and have breakneck action sequences. Their recent film Abigail exemplifies that signature and is perhaps their best film yet. They are currently working on a reboot of John Carpenter’s Escape From New York.

We thought we would go through the list of projects they have directed and rank them from high to low. None of the movies and shorts on this list are bad, they all have their merits. These rankings from top to bottom are just ones we felt showcased their talents the best.

We didn’t include movies they produced but didn’t direct.

#1. Abigail

An update to the second film on this list, Abagail is the natural progression of Radio Silence’s love of lockdown horror. It follows in pretty much the same footsteps of Ready or Not, but manages to go one better — make it about vampires.

Abigail

#2. Ready or Not

This film put Radio Silence on the map. While not as successful at the box office as some of their other films, Ready or Not proved that the team could step outside their limited anthology space and create a fun, thrilling, and bloody adventure-length film.

Ready or Not

#3. Scream (2022)

While Scream will always be a polarizing franchise, this prequel, sequel, reboot — however you want to label it showed just how much Radio Silence knew the source material. It wasn’t lazy or cash-grabby, just a good time with legendary characters we love and new ones who grew on us.

Scream (2022)

#4 Southbound (The Way Out)

Radio Silence tosses their found footage modus operandi for this anthology film. Responsible for the bookend stories, they create a terrifying world in their segment titled The Way Out, which involves strange floating beings and some sort of time loop. It’s kind of the first time we see their work without a shaky cam. If we were to rank this entire film, it would remain at this position on the list.

Southbound

#5. V/H/S (10/31/98)

The film that started it all for Radio Silence. Or should we say the segment that started it all. Even though this isn’t feature-length what they managed to do with the time they had was very good. Their chapter was titled 10/31/98, a found-footage short involving a group of friends who crash what they think is a staged exorcism only to learn not to assume things on Halloween night.

V/H/S

#6. Scream VI

Cranking up the action, moving to the big city and letting Ghostface use a shotgun, Scream VI turned the franchise on its head. Like their first one, this film played with canon and managed to win over a lot of fans in its direction, but alienated others for coloring too far outside the lines of Wes Craven’s beloved series. If any sequel was showing how the trope was going stale it was Scream VI, but it managed to squeeze some fresh blood out of this nearly three-decade mainstay.

Scream VI

#7. Devil’s Due

Fairly underrated, this, Radio Silence’s first feature-length film, is a sampler of things they took from V/H/S. It was filmed in an omnipresent found footage style, showcasing a form of possession, and features clueless men. Since this was their first bonafide major studio job it’s a wonderful touchstone to see how far they have come with their storytelling.

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Perhaps the Scariest, Most Disturbing Series of The Year

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You may have never heard of Richard Gadd, but that will probably change after this month. His mini-series Baby Reindeer just hit Netflix and it’s a terrifying deep dive into abuse, addiction, and mental illness. What is even scarier is that it’s based on Gadd’s real-life hardships.

The crux of the story is about a man named Donny Dunn played by Gadd who wants to be a stand-up comedian, but it’s not working out so well thanks to stage fright stemming from his insecurity.

One day at his day job he meets a woman named Martha, played to unhinged perfection by Jessica Gunning, who is instantly charmed by Donny’s kindness and good looks. It doesn’t take long before she nicknames him “Baby Reindeer” and begins to relentlessly stalk him. But that is just the apex of Donny’s problems, he has his own incredibly disturbing issues.

This mini-series should come with a lot of triggers, so just be warned it is not for the faint of heart. The horrors here don’t come from blood and gore, but from physical and mental abuse that go beyond any physiological thriller you may have ever seen.

“It’s very emotionally true, obviously: I was severely stalked and severely abused,” Gadd said to People, explaining why he changed some aspects of the story. “But we wanted it to exist in the sphere of art, as well as protect the people it’s based on.”

The series has gained momentum thanks to positive word-of-mouth, and Gadd is getting used to the notoriety.

“It’s clearly struck a chord,” he told The Guardian. “I really did believe in it, but it’s taken off so quickly that I do feel a bit windswept.”

You can stream Baby Reindeer on Netflix right now.

If you or someone you know has been sexually assaulted, please contact the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) or go to rainn.org.

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The Original ‘Beetlejuice’ Sequel Had an Interesting Location

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Back in the late ’80s and early ’90s sequels to hit movies weren’t as linear as they are today. It was more like “let’s re-do the situation but in a different location.” Remember Speed 2, or National Lampoon’s European Vacation? Even Aliens, as good as it is, follows a lot of the plot points of the original; people stuck on a ship, an android, a little girl in peril instead of a cat. So it makes sense that one of the most popular supernatural comedies of all time, Beetlejuice would follow the same pattern.

In 1991 Tim Burton was interested in doing a sequel to his 1988 original, it was called Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian:

“The Deetz family moves to Hawaii to develop a resort. Construction begins, and it’s quickly discovered that the hotel will be sitting on top of an ancient burial ground. Beetlejuice comes in to save the day.”

Burton liked the script but wanted some re-writes so he asked then-hot screenwriter Daniel Waters who had just got done contributing to Heathers. He passed on the opportunity so producer David Geffen offered it to Troop Beverly Hills scribe Pamela Norris to no avail.

Eventually, Warner Bros. asked Kevin Smith to punch up Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian, he scoffed at the idea, saying, “Didn’t we say all we needed to say in the first Beetlejuice? Must we go tropical?”

Nine years later the sequel was killed. The studio said Winona Ryder was now too old for the part and an entire re-cast needed to happen. But Burton never gave up, there were a lot of directions he wanted to take his characters, including a Disney crossover.

“We talked about lots of different things,” the director said in Entertainment Weekly. “That was early on when we were going, Beetlejuice and the Haunted MansionBeetlejuice Goes West, whatever. Lots of things came up.”

Fast-forward to 2011 when another script was pitched for a sequel. This time the writer of Burton’s Dark Shadows,  Seth Grahame-Smith was hired and he wanted to make sure the story wasn’t a cash-grabbing remake or reboot. Four years later, in 2015, a script was approved with both Ryder and Keaton saying they would return to their respective roles. In 2017 that script was revamped and then eventually shelved in 2019.

During the time the sequel script was being tossed around in Hollywood, in 2016 an artist named Alex Murillo posted what looked like one-sheets for a Beetlejuice sequel. Although they were fabricated and had no affiliation with Warner Bros. people thought they were real.

Perhaps the virality of the artwork sparked interest in a Beetlejuice sequel once again, and finally, it was confirmed in 2022 Beetlejuice 2 had a green light from a script written by Wednesday writers  Alfred Gough and Miles Millar. The star of that series Jenna Ortega signed on to the new movie with filming starting in 2023. It was also confirmed that Danny Elfman would return to do the score.

Burton and Keaton agreed that the new film titled Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice wouldn’t rely on CGI or other other forms of technology. They wanted the film to feel “handmade.” The film wrapped in November 2023.

It’s been over three decades to come up with a sequel to Beetlejuice. Hopefully, since they said aloha to Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian there has been enough time and creativity to ensure Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice will not only honor the characters, but fans of the original.

Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice will open theatrically on September 6.

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